I have to say I agree with sweetjag as I have lost 25lbs since Christmas and feel great!!! Each to their own I say! I never do more than one week in three and my whole way of eating has changed for the better if you drink the amount of water stated you should not dehydrate.My doctor is also aware of the diet I am on and I am fitter and healthier and my regular blood tests show that too!

This diet isn't for you.  Fine.... do your really feel better about yourself raining on our parade?

When I first tried this diet (12 years ago) I lost 50 pounds and became quite thin.  Since then, I have used it several times to keep my weight under control.  I am very muscular and this diet has never changed that (as a woman, sometimes I wish it would!).

I have lost 11 pounds while on this diet and i don't care what any body says about it but i am happy and of course if i start eating all the junk i was eating before the diet i will gain some weight back.
If i wanted to build muscle i would i would visit your bodybuilding website and buy some of your expensive products but no thank you all i want to do is lose some weight.


Zoke you are a joke !!

Some of what zoke writes is correct but some is not.

zoke wrote:

If you're new here, don't start doing this diet.

At first, you're going to eat so little Calories you will be dehydrated.

Not true. You only become dehyrated if you don't take in enough fluid. If you drink plenty of water and other fluids you will not dehydrate. The soup has loads of fluid, otherwise it wouldn't be soup, really. Calories have nothing to do with hydration.

zoke wrote:

Not only is it dangerous, but the weight you will be losing is almost purely water and muscle.

Not true. It is not possible to lose only water and muscle and no fat by dieting. Yes, you will lose water (water bonded to glycogen, not available water that hydrates you). Yes, you will probably lose some lean muscle, especially if you don't exercise. But your body will always burn fat if you take in fewer calories than you expend. The majority of your weight loss is fat. That's a fact.

zoke wrote:

So you lose water.. what happens after you're done with the diet? If you go on to eat even below your maintenance Calories you're going to get the water back.

I have explained this elsewhere. Your body can store energy either as fat, or as glycogen bonded to water stored in your muscles. When your body needs more energy than it can quickly get from your food, it burns the glycogen, releasing the water (nothing to do with being dehydrated) which causes weight loss, and it also burns fat which is what we all want. If you eat food containing simple carbohydrates like sweets or bananas etc you will replenish your glycogen stores. That's a good thing, you need some glycogen. But the fat stays gone as long as you don't eat more calories than you expend.

zoke wrote:

What about muscle? Losing muscle is never good.. if anything, your metabolism will decrease and you will look worse (and you'll actually be more fat.. greater body fat %)

That's true. That's why it's very important to exercise at your appropriate fitness level as part of your healthy lifestyle change. That doesn't mean pumping iron in the gym (unless you want to). It can mean walking more - walking is great exercise, don't let anyone make you feel like you're not exercising because you're "only walking". Ask them how they'd like to haul 200lbs for a mile and a half! Exercise just feels easier than pumping iron because it uses the strongest muscles in your body - your legs and butt. That's what they're designed for, so they can do the job without "feeling the burn". If you tried to lift 1lb weight using only the muscles in your eyelids it would feel like you were working really hard, but only because those little little muscles aren't up to the job. You wouldn't burn as many calories as moving your whole body weight for a few yards. In terms of burning calories and maintaining lean muscle whilst dieting, walking is fantastic exercise.

zoke wrote:

Not only that, but your metabolism will get weaker and the body will get lazy. It will hold on to the fat reserves and burn all the muscles first, as they are easier to metabolize for energy

Simply not true. Glycogen is easiest to metabolise, fat is also easy - that's what it's for, for heaven's sake! It's your body's energy store. I repeat, it is simply not possible to burn ONLY muscle and NO fat. Can't be done. Although you will burn some lean muscle on ANY diet if you don't exercise.

zoke wrote:

and after you are done with the diet your metabolism will be so weak that you will actually weight more afterwards.

I'm not even sure anymore that zoke understands what the word "metabolism" means, so I'm struggling to grasp what this sentence is about.

zoke wrote:

This is terrible. Stop trying to think starvation is the way to diet, you're fooling yourselves. Diet is not simple, I suggest you go to a website like bodybuilding.com and do real research.

Ahhhhhhhh. I see now. You're spamming us with your website. So that's what this is all about.

That's your answer is it? A bunch of flabby women should do bodybuilding to trim down? Have you any idea how dumb that is? Most of these people (me included) are INCREDIBLY self-conscious about their bodies. There may be one or two who would like to join a gym and do bodybuilding. I admire them and wish them good luck. I'm sure it will work for them if they get good advice and stick to the program. BUT I wouldn't be seen dead in a gym. Or in the kinds of clothes you wear in a gym. I wouldn't want to be looked at by the people who go to a gym. I couldn't even bear to use the changing rooms of the gym. It's out of the question.

So, what else have you got? Because I've got a program that works, that people can really do, and where they really see results and start to feel better about their bodies and about themselves. We've even got a little forum here where we all support each other and help each other through the tough times.

You, my friend, are not helping.

zoke wrote:

This "diet" is terrible for anything beyond 'cleansing' (and damaging you in the way).
If you're in the process, stop now before you do further damage to your bodies.


I am doing this as a service to new members. I took the time to write this for you, appreciate it and take it seriously. Do not start this diet.

Thank you for your concern for us. However you do not understand us. You do not understand what it feels like to be us. You do not know who we are, what our problems are or how we came to be here. You are entirely unqualified to comment on our situation. Neither do you seem to be terribly well-informed about diet, nutrition, hydration, metabolism or human psychology. Thanks again for your concern. If you have anything positive to contribute, we'd like to hear from you again. But if all you've got is "Don't do this diet [which we have found to be effective and do-able], take up bodybuilding instead" then we'd all appreciate it if you didn't bother writing anymore.

I have not done the diet for a month but here is a run down of what happened while I was on it.


I began the diet at 244 and followed the diet to a T went down to 230. I went five days and ate like crazy and gained five pounds.  I went back on the diet and went down to 227 but went off the diet after day six.

It's been a month since the second time I did the diet but I watch what I eat and now have a job as an over night grocery stocker and have maintianed my 227-229 wieght.  I plan on jogging when the weather gets warmer so I can loose more wieght, I will keep you informed.

I just signed up for this site today. The main reason, ZOKE the Joke(not really, but that would be laughable, eh?). You make me laugh. You think you know what you are talking about, but there are many holes in what you have said in your posts. Zoke not only do you need to learn how to use proper grammar (you've got punctuation pretty much down), but you need to stay to your own business. My life, nor anyone else's on this site has anything to do with yours. Come now we are all (hopefully) adults here. Didn't your mom teach you to not stick your nose where it wasn't wanted??

On a lighter note. I've been reading all of your posts and I must say; Im encouraged to restart this diet. My husband and I will be starting May 6.

LOL!!!!

Hmmmm I dont know what happened that you gained all your wieght back in one sitting but like I have stated before I did the diet two times in a row and went from 244 to 230 and since I have been eating smaller portions and exercising a bit I have been fluctuatin between 127 and 129. I have the occasional soda (regular) and have hit McDonalds a couple of times and this morning for breakfast had three eggs over easy, two sausage patties, and some fried potatoes.....