I suggest that we do something different with this positive and negative system. It is too easy to give undeserving people negative marks, people who are actually helpful, intelligent, informative, supportive, and truly kind.
Because of this, this site has now lost a member, a member like I described above, a member who was very good and helpful to a lot of us.
I think we should do away with the reputation points. Why do we need them? Or at the very least, a valid reason should have to be provided before being able to hand out something so hurtful.
Please let's do something about this before we lose more people that are well loved and needed by many members.
Last edited by 36toGoal (2007-05-30 04:23:39)
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I totally agree!! We don't need those points, who cares about that? I didn't even know they existed when I first started using this forum! Can we please dispose of them? We know in our hearts when we are being helpful and honest, that's all that should count.
A very good suggestion 36toGoal, I am with you 100%!
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No problem Mandy, this whole thing makes me SICK! I have become so emotional about it, and could cry! It makes me not want to even sign on any more because of some mean person lurking around ready our posts and passing judgement. But I really need this and all of you so much (ESPECIALLY SALLY!!) So where do we turn? I am just so angry about this and we need to try to talk Sally into coming back and putting that all aside. Don't let some jerk get her down, maybe it was a mistake like it was before, seriously, some one not knowing what they were doing and now, too embarrassed to admit it!
I can not tell you how much this is upsetting me!
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I know Twilight. I keep half heartedly signing on, just to check and see if maybe Sally would change her mind. I was completely sick when I read her post this morning. Then sad, then just plain pissed off.

And it is making me sick that someone among us maybe isn't for real, maybe is like you said just lurking and reading our posts and passing judgement on us. I too need this site a lot. Even when I'm not strict dieting I still need it to keep me on track and keep me from falling too far.
I hope Sally will come back, I hope she knows how much we need her!
And I hope that someone will take this suggestion seriously and get rid of these reputation points before we lose more people who's hearts are REALLY in the right place!
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I completely agree with getting rid of the reputation points. It is such a waste of time and a burden to us who are completely faithful to this site. And it really is unbelievable that someone is just wasting their time "lurking" giving bad points to really wonderful people. It is rediculous and even though it seems like such a small thing it really is not as benign as it seems. It is very demeaning and ummotivating to log on to a site that you spend A LOT of time on and find out someone doesn't like you. And that person is such a coward to not let themselves be known. I think that the whole point system shouldn't even be on this site. This is a site for losing weight and to give and recieve knowledge that other wise you wouldn't have, not a popularity contest.
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I am very new to this site and indeed i did wonder what those "reputation points" were all about. And are they really necessary?
Reading through the many old posts has convinced me to start this diet and one of the members whose posts have always been motivational are those from Sally.
As i said im new, so i dont know of the history of the board nor its members, so maybe its not quite my place to voice my opinion.... but (as they say in my part of the woods) "Ni modo!, Me vale!" so im going to voice my opinion anyway....
My Two Cents - Those points are completely unnecessary!!! We are a group of people here supporting each other at a time of over lives when we truly need it. Its absurd that persons will get extremely personal and ridiculously malicious and intentionalluy hurt the feelings of someone here, especially someone like Sally.
Never the less, whats done cant really be undone... But we can overcome it firstly by getting rid of such a system! and most importantly, Sally dont let the work a some coward brut affect you. There are many of us here who truly appreciate you and your support. We value you and would love to see you around.
My two cents!
Tally
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Thanks to everyone backing me up on this!
Tally it doesn't matter how long you've been a member, any support on this matter is great! And like you, I spent a lot of time before I actually started this diet just checking out this site and Sally's posts were one of the main reasons I took that leap and joined and started the diet!
Brittany, couldn't of said it better myself. This is not a popularity contest. And we have now lost one of the most supportive and inspirational people on this site because of it.
Cindy, great idea! Whoever is in charge should be handing out the negatives and that's it!
Maybe if we keep "screaming" about this, someone will listen!
Thanks again for the support on this issue!
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I don't see the point of having pos/negs either. Does the forum creator read this or does anybody know his/her e-mail? Maybe we can e-mail them and tell them to get rid of it.
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Great idea rottingoak! Does anyone know who is in charge here and how to get a message to them? Because truthfully, I just assumed that they would read these suggestions and that may not be the case!
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Okay everyone, here is an update on rottingoak's suggestion.
The administrator of this site is Blair. If you go to the Welcome Back portion, on the fourth page, there is a thread that she started. If you go to that thread, under her name is the option to send her a PM or an e mail.
Unfortunately I am having trouble with my personal e mail account so I couldn't go that route. I sent her a PM, but not sure how active she is in the site anymore so not sure if she will read it.
Anyone who has the ability to e mail her, that may be our best bet!!!
Can't hurt to try, right?
Mandy
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You're right Mandy, and thanks for doing the research! I will email Blair as all of you should. I'l tell you though, right now this has angered me so much I don't even want to post anymore! I even had weird dreams last night because I had 'challenged' the person on another post to "give me negative points", you know kind of like saying "Come on you @#*&%@, bring it on"! "I'll take you"! It was running in my head like the scene in "You've Got Mail" where Meg Ryan was jumping around boxing saying she was going to take him to the mattresses! Remember that?
Okay we all should do that and hopefully we can get our Sally back and if anyone has ideas of who it could have been, we can even "PM" our inclinations to each other. I know I have an impulse, but that's all it is.
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Oh this site is just plain pissing me off today!
It tells me I'm not logged on when I am, it tells me I don't have permission to access pages, and when I tried to post a reply it redirected me back to the main page! GRRR

Okay, that said, Twilight you are absolutely right. And too damn funny!
I hope that other people will e mail Blair. Seems like now we are losing Charito too. How can one nasty person cause all of this? I just don't get it.
I'm afraid I don't pay enough attention to who is signing on and off to have a guess. I wish I could be more helpful.
I feel like Rambo or something on a mission!
Let's keep on this you guys!
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I know!! So do I! "Put up your Dukes" - now I'm impersonating the "Cowardly Lion" frm the Wizard of Oz!! Can't you see me jumping around saying that?
I was going to say goodbye too this morning. I could hardly sleep last night it pissed me off so much! But then I got an email from Sally and read everyone elses comments and thought we'e got to stick together on this and be strong. WE ARE BETTER THAN THE "'INTIMIDATOR"!
and Rambo can kick his ass anytime, right??
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I sent the email to Blair. Sally didnt send me an email
and i even sent her and email. that makes me sad, I dont want to be left behind if everyone leaves to a different site. I want to go too.
dont you all leave me behind. Twilight you have my email if you leave make sure you tell me to where.
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I emailed Blair too. I also told (him? her?) how much I value this forum, and said thank you for administering it because it's so valuable to us.
I also pointed out that people who use this forum often have low self-esteem (I know I do) that's why they're trying to lose weight and why they seek support on an online forum. So we're not just "making a big deal" out of the negative points, maybe other people could just laugh off a few negative points but on this particular forum they might really deal people a hard blow.
I hope Blair reads it, and I hope the "points" system gets deleted, and I hope the people who left come back. I can see this all falling apart and that would be a shame because it's been vital to me these last 6 weeks of dieting and lifestyle change.
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Good Paragon, thank you and Whittnie thanks to you, now we just all have to stick together and get "our family" back!
Whittnie, don't worry about Sally not responding to your email, she is on a totally different time zone.
Mandy's email wasn't working so I wrote a long email and I just wanted to "PM" Mandy and tell her what I wrote because she is the one that researched and found the info, but then couldn't get her email to work.
I don't plan on going anywhere yet, in fact, none of should, we should stand up to the prick that's playing these games and prove we are better and stronger than him!
and you've got my email too, so no matter what happens, I know who my friends are an vice versa. Who knows, all these emails to the administrator could cause the entire site to "crash and burn" so then where would we be? Start our own?
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Okay, I think the "gods" of this site are telling me I post too much because I am having a hell of a time today!
So I will make this quick because I am actually supposed to be mopping right now. Kill me now, I hate mopping!
I just wanted to say, Way to go girls with all of the e mails! You are all awesome! Hopefully we'll get some results soon.
I've had the same thoughts of leaving but I just don't want to lose you guys and I don't want this jerk to win! So let's all hang in there, okay? We are stronger than the "intimidator"!!! Whether Rambo or the Cowardly Lion! Twilight I just about cry I laugh so hard every time I read one of your posts!
And Brittany, we won't leave you behind, don't you worry! Or anyone for that matter that we know are our "true friends"!
Okay girls, have a fabulous day!
Mandy
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Ohhh this site does not like me any better today! It just took me three attempts to post a reply here!
I don't really have anything new to report, I just wanted to make sure that this thread stayed active. It would be a shame if it got pushed off and was never dealt with!
Blair did not respond to my PM, but that doesn't surprise me since I don't really think Blair is all that active in the site anymore.
Any luck with the e mails?
Well, I'll check back in later and hopefully we'll have some good news. I still have points though, so it seems that nothing has been done yet.
I keep giving Sally more positive points every time the site lets me (after my 65,555,555.....seconds have passed!
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Have a great day everyone!
Mandy
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I will e-mail blair tonight. I really hope this forum doesn't fall apart. This is one of the best support systems I have seen. Even though I don't post as much as others, it's very encouraging for me to see other people's results and it motivates me to strieve harder!
Take me with you if you guys go to another forum!!!
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Girls I have sent an e-mail to Blair and I agree with Mandy - I don't think he/she is active on the site anymore and I cannot think of any way to get rid of this stupid points system. I have to say I am feeling really down at what is going on in our forum. I have tried to contact Sally a couple of times but she isn't responding. (Sally if you are reading this I want you to contact us NOW!!! 
I wish she would let us know who the person was so we can deal with them. I am so angry that they are getting away with their petty little spiteful actions and also succeeding in affecting the groups morale. I agree with you girls, we have to keep this thread going until we get Sally back, sort out the points system and get rid of the pathetic little bully!
Sinead XX:hug:
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Sinead, thanks for helping out!
I know everyone's morale is down, but like i said on a different thread, I don't think that this is what Sally intended when she decided not to come back. I don't think she wanted us to be all depressed and off our plans and falling apart!
I'm not saying we shouldn't fight anymore, we should, we should fight like hell to get rid of this point system. Paragon was right, it is absolutely not a good idea to be able to assign negative points to people who are struggling with their weight and most usually have low self esteem. (Me included!) So yes, we should keep trying and keep fighting to get rid of these points.
But we still have to fight for ourselves! We still all deserve to be healthy and happy and bikini ready! Sally would not want all of us to quit on ourselves. And I'm sure she is still cheering us all on. Just as we are all still cheering her on.
How's the bike riding going Sally?!
So I guess what I'm trying to say is, everyone keep e mailing Blair, keep trying. But let's quit giving this a*@hole so much power over us! The greatest revenge ever is if we all keep going and keep supporting each other and KEEP LOSING WEIGHT!!!
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That's funny Cindy!
Well, we still have points this morning. How can this site be unattended? What the hell is the point of a suggestion box if no one cares what we are suggesting? I don't get it.
All I can say is keep trying. Anyone who hasn't e mailed Blair yet, please try to if you have a chance. Eventually I would think that she/he would get annoyed and at least respond to one of us!
Have a good day everyone!
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